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Apple versus Bill Gates

Would it be accurate to say that the cultish Apple is gaining marketshare from the once formidable Bill Gates powered PC's?

A few years back, the argument was Apple's couldn't handle business applications with the same effectiveness. Superior for artists but lousy for business people. That's no longer the case so how much did that help Apple?

Virus problems are nill or non-existent, unless of course you decide to upload Microsoft applications.

The i-Phone is the most amazing device I've ever laid eyes on

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Permalink Reply by Zen on March 22, 2008 at 11:19pm: I have used mac's for years..They Rock!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by White Lion on March 22, 2008 at 11:22pm: That will be my next laptop. I hear they're superior to the Bill Gates machines. I have firewalls and anti-virus, anti-spyware up the ass.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Zen on March 23, 2008 at 1:08am: Macbook Pro! You should check it out.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by White Lion on March 23, 2008 at 12:21pm: JP I have a company issued IBM Thinkpad, I've had it for the past three years without a problem. They give us the option to upgrade once a year but I'm too freakin lazy and it works just fine for it's intended purpose. As for "Bill Gates" machines I will always be a HP kind of guy, but I am ready to move on to the MacBook Pro.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by White Lion on March 22, 2008 at 11:35pm: JP check out the MacBook Pro, that thing is a monster. Does it all!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by White Lion on March 22, 2008 at 11:37pm: Check this review out. I have a couple of buddies with this monster. Does it all

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2890&review=Ap...; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by White Lion on March 26, 2008 at 5:23pm: Here's a really nice Apple laptop, not quite on the level of a MacBook Pro, but from what I'm told it does a tremendous job.

http://www.apple.com/macbook/; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Popper on June 20, 2008 at 5:38am: Microsoft has always been good only at underhanded plays, including stealing ideas & code from its competition, buying out the competition, and behaving as a monopoly. Hell, they can't do anything on thier own - never could. They even stole the Windows GUI from Apple way back in 1983, and it never stopped. Currently & the future, Apple can only go up w/ its user base, and Windows will only lose - IMO. People are justifiably sick of the MS monopolistic crap. Recall that the kernel of bloated VISTA is like 100 times the size of Apple's Unix based OS-X. Personally, I wouldn't take VISTA if you gave it to me. I've been using Windows for way too long - lots of frustration, and poor coding. As soon as the monopoly is taken away, I'm switching. And factors as hardware limitations are no longer a factor.

Here are a few interesting current vids:

Steve Wozniak: How it began (and The Woz is a hero, invented so much and contributed to the field of computers in the greatest way).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7464704.stm

Gates from the beginning (when he pretty much STOLE everything in his OS)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7462156.stm

I'll just add that I was a TRS-80 model I guy way back in 1980. Man, those were the days. I admit that even to this day I miss NEW-DOS and L-DOS (The OSs for the old TRaSh-80)

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Permalink Reply by White Lion on June 20, 2008 at 4:25pm: So you're a Bill Gates hater too? Whatever he did or does, he's highly successful at. That alone earns my respect, the guys built an empire.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Popper on June 22, 2008 at 5:59am: Gates has built an empire by destroying other companies and taking advantage of his monopoly. I might agree Gates a Marketing genius - but certainly not a tech one. Neither Windows nor anything M$ made was revolutionary. They got on top by lying, spying on their customers, stealing from their competitors, or buying their competition out. Unfortunately it takes the Europeans to properly regulate US monopolies nowadays.

If you check their stock, they've been pretty well flat since before the Bubble (I should know since, unfortunately I've owned it that long). Nothing innovative or exciting thus far - except perhaps the X-Box gaming system. It's the reason I fundamentally oppose M$ taking over Yahoo. M$ is the GW Bush of Company: Everything they touch they screw up. Fortunately now, w/ the Internet the way it is, people are finally more educated and able to get far better products than what M$ has to offer.

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Permalink Reply by Popper on November 10, 2008 at 10:45pm: Thinking about it, I have far more respect for Linus Torvald than Gates. Torvald built an entire operating system really by himself which is far more reliable than anything M$ has to offer. He has helped the Open Source philosophy, in ways M$ hates, and may eventually destroy the M$ monopoly. Why arguably, Linux makes not only the most reliable OS, but also a host of products which all compete and are better than the other Micro$soft products, as Open Office, etc. It allows for choice, and flexibility in that anyone can modify the source, something which M$ does not. People use versions of Linux on their cell phones, and I use Open Source on my iPod (http://www.rockbox.org) -- which is 1000 percent better than iTunes IMO. I mean Open Source is everywhere - I heard there is a version of linux now even on some gas pumps. And it is free to use, and modify at your will. Unlike M$, Linux has never screwed a company over and they recognizes the value of the Open Source community and how copyright / patents hinder innovation.

Compare this which M$, who has attempted to make open source illegal in US Courts, claiming that Open Source flies in the face of copyright law. Obviously, M$ can't compete fairly on a technological level w/ Linux and has had to therefore attempt to sabotage Linux in the US courts.

Linus began linux back about 1992 in his house, and it has grown to what it is today. Open Source is now mainstream, and yet about 10 - 15 years ago most people had not a clue what it was about. And, last I heard, he is not a multimillionaire and, as far as I know has a regular job.

There are few of what I would call heroes today, but I would say that Linus in top draw.

http://www.slayerx.org/2008/02/27/linus-torvalds-facts/

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Permalink Reply by Popper on April 7, 2009 at 4:10am: Uncertain why this thread is featured here.

There is a heavy rumor going around that Steve Jobs is dying. This is the elephant in the room, and extremely bad for Apple. He is losing weight, did not attend one of his hallmark events where he has been the keynote speaker for over a decade, appears to keep getting sicker and sicker.

Apple is a strange company. Jobs is a real excentric character. Like off the wall has no self control excentric. However, w/out Jobs, Apple is in trouble.

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